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Caryl Matrisciana
Guest speaker on the Republic Forum
Topic: The New Barbarians and Harry Potter
6-12-03
Steven:
Welcome ladies and gentleman, my name is Steven. Welcome to the Republic
Forum. Thank you for coming out this evening. We are going to have a
unique speaker tonight, Carlie Matrisciana. As in the past we have had
speakers such as John Spring who gave us some insight as to what's going
on over in the Middle East. Carlie is going to go ahead and give us
some information, not only that, but we're going to see some videos
tonight. She is going to talk about how young people, children, are
being somewhat manipulated, for a better term, mind control, as we have
here in our nation called another name, Outcome Based Education. It's
amazing what we can do to young ones to manipulate them to allow further
manipulation. So at this time I would like to bring Carlie up, let's
give her a big… Caryl? The paper said Carlie, anyways let's have
a warm welcome for Carlie, or for Caryl.
Caryl:
Well, thank you, thank you very much. It's because it is spelled in
a strange way. It is spelled C-a-r-y-l, and I am called Carlie, and
Carl, and Caryl, and you know what? It's alright, because that way I
can make my name known. Although if you want to go to my web page you'd
have to know that it was spelled in a different way. It is spelled Caryltv.com.
So it's always a topic of conversation.
Now just in case you think I've got
the accent, I always think all of you have the accent. I actually, I'm
English, married to a Texan, living in America, born in India. Is that
confusing? I was the last British baby born in British India, fifth
generation, raised in India, and surrounded by Eastern Mysticism, Hinduism,
Islam, and the culture of India. So, it was a very interesting upbringing.
In the 60's, when my parents left India, we came to England, and at
that time there was the revolution taking place worldwide with the Beatles
making a tremendous impact with their music and turning everybody to
the East in Eastern enlightenment and Eastern wisdom. Having just come
from the East, and being raised there and living there, I didn't really
see the glamorous side that was being portrayed through the 60's Flower
Power Movement. Of course that was the time that Hollywood was turning
to Eastern meditation and drugs and hallucinogenic and mind altering,
not only through chemical and drug addiction, but also through yoga,
meditation, visualization, and that was the birth of the beginning of
what we know today as the New Age Movement, which has taken on a real
metamorphosis in so many ways. Coming through, sort of initially through
drugs, but then coming through the school system where in the 60's the
Bible was taken out in the schools, prayer, the Ten Commandments was
taken out, and one wasn't allowed to teach morality. Yet today, we have
Harry Potter which is basic 101 witchcraft and paganism being read aloud
in the classroom on U.S. tax-payers dollars. Young children are being
taught witchcraft through the adventures of a little 11-year-old witch,
who in book #1, 4 or 5 years ago, was eleven, book #2 12 years old,
book #3 13-14 years old. Book #5 is coming out on June the 21st, which
interestingly enough on the pagan calendar is of course a very auspicious
day, the Summer Solstice, and each of the Harry Potter releases are
done on nature dates, on mystery religion dates to bring, in their view
of thinking, the most power through the forces into the world released
through, you know, spiritual powers and principalities.
I made this film, now I personally,
about 30 years ago, started getting involved in the media. I had majored
in art and graphic design, then got involved in a graphic design studio
in film and modeling, and eventually got involved in being able to control,
rather than being one side of the camera, able to be the other side
of the camera and control what was being put out. For the last 25 years
or so I have been a filmmaker and was the cofounder of Jeremiah Films
and the Creative Director of Jeremiah Films, wrote and made about 30
documentaries. The two latest ones are the ones that I am going to be
talking about this evening, which are Harry Potter, Witchcraft Repackaged,
Making Evil Look Innocent and The New Barbarians. Both of these are
very topical issues.
On World Net Daily today they put out
an article about Harry Potter, and very kindly and graciously mentioned
me as a filmmaker and occult expert, talking on the Harry Potter issue
in which led to me being on a radio station today and a couple of days
ago. I think the interesting thing about the Harry Potter issue is actually
listening to the people call in, young children that were introduced
to witchcraft. I think what we need to realize is that witchcraft is
the fastest growing religion among teenagers in this country. The young
people that were calling in and saying yes that they had gotten introduced
and lured into witchcraft and a fascination for witchcraft through the
Harry Potter books. Today's article in World Net Daily started off by
saying that the Harry Potter books have helped increase interest in
witchcraft around the world. This is according to a representatives
of witchcraft, the Wiccan group sponsoring one of the, in fact, the
largest European witchcraft and Wicca event recorded in history is going
to take place in Scotland next month. They credit Harry Potter, that
it has had a positive effect on witchcraft. Of course many people will
say it's just fantasy literature, it's just fiction, no big deal. I
am going to open up this evening, later on, for your questions. I would
like us to talk about it because obviously, you know, answering your
questions would be much more relevant than me going on. There is a growing
interest in Wicca. It is being, interestingly enough, the publishers
of Harry Potter also happen to be curriculum providers for the American
schools for the last 80 years. So here we have Scholastic Inc. who have
provided curriculum material in public schools, who are also the publishers
of this 101 manual of witchcraft. J.K. Rowling, the author of Harry
Potter, promises that the books get darker and darker. We have got #5,
as I say, coming out on June 21st. We have another two years, consecutive
years, of book #6 and #7. She has written a seven part series. She said
that she deliberately planned to have seven years in the growing up
of an 11-year-old boy to a 17-year-old boy, because she felt that seven
years was needed in order to train a wizard. Of course, Harry is being
taught in the Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry, which is a
thousand-year-old occult school. His teachers are training the 350 students
in the occult, but vicariously the 34 million children that are being
introduced to this reading program in American schools, are also being
taught the actual rites and ceremonies that form the basis of this religion.
It has been given tax-exempt status by the IRS, witchcraft has. The
U.S. Supreme Court has deemed it a religion, and of course there are
Wicca chaplains in the military. So, to say that this is fantasy and
just a make-up religion, of course, is not truly representative of what
is taking place. The point is, another very scary point in the whole
Harry Potter phenomenon going through public schools is that the curriculum
encourages children to investigate the myths and folklore in the Harry
Potter books. J.K. Rowling, the author of the Harry Potter series, studied
mythology at Exeter University, and is well versed in classical folklore,
mythology, and world religions. So she did base Harry Potter on actual
ritual, as it is being taught in the various denominations, if you'll
call them that, Wicca and witchcraft. So the children then are not only
being taught this in the schools, being allowed to or being read to
in the classroom, but they are also being encouraged to go into Wiccan
websites where Wiccans themselves answer the questions of the children
and further introduce them to a pagan world view. That is what is taking
place in our schools, and I would just like to remind you, I wrote a
book called Gods of the New Age, it was a best-seller, and I've got
a video back there based on the book and video working hand and hand.
Basically we went back to India, investigated the roots of the New Age
Movement, looked into what is meditation, yoga, visualization, which
is now showing itself in the culture through psychology, self help,
yoga, which is all across the nation from the Y.M.C.A. to in schools
and colleges, and is a form of Hindu prayer. It is not physical exercise
as it is being advertised to be. But, in that book I had a section on
how the New Age is getting through the schools. I would just like to
read a piece that I put in there that the public school systems are
removing authority from parents. Dr. Pierce, a professor of education
and psychiatry at Harvard University, made this statement:
"Every child in America entering
school at the age of 5 is mentally ill because he comes to school with
certain allegiances towards our founding fathers, toward our elected
officials, toward his parents, toward belief in a supernatural being,
toward the sovereignty of this nation as a separate entity. It is up
to you teachers to make all of these sick children well by creating
the international child of the future."
So this Harry Potter is part of the
indoctrination and I would really encourage you to look at this video
where I point out the, I've included footage from actual witches, from
covens that we went into to film, and we showed their rituals, spells,
and interviews are very similar to what is being taught in the Harry
Potter books. This is a wonderful resource to show meditation, black
magic, curses, spells, divination, sorcery, occult symbology, and all
the things that are part of Goals 2000, an outcome based education,
that is now being taught to our children through so-called fantasy literature.
Harry Potter is being translated into over 48 languages, it is distributed
in over 200 countries, it is specifically targeting the global child
of the future. Harry has a mark on his forehead which was zapped to
him by the evil Lord Voldemort, when the evil Lord Voldemort murdered
Harry's parents and was meant to murder Harry, which took place on Halloween
night. The scar that was put on Harry's forehead was the lightening
bolt, which was the same lightening bolt that was on Hitler's uniform.
It is the power, the symbol of authority, and the lightening, of course,
is of the god Thor, which Thursday is named after. So this pagan symbology
which our children are being indoctrinated with, followers of Harry
Potter in allegiance to Harry are putting the mark of the beast that
killed Harry onto their own foreheads to show their allegiance to their
little hero who has got the allegiance of the global child. It is just
interesting how the symbology is working in with the indoctrination
process.
Now onto another indoctrination process.
About 25 years ago when I came from India and got involved in research
in the cults, etcetera, I was helping parents whose children had got
involved in the Hare Krishna, in meditation, yoga, and all sorts of
Eastern mystical cults or cults based in Eastern mysticism. Because
of my background in Hinduism and the language of India, and the experience
of having grown up there in the knowledge of the culture, I started
working with the European government in helping to be able to distinguish
how we could cope with these various religious movements that were breaking
up our families and breaking up our social structure. I saw some appalling
incidents of brainwashing and cruelty to children, but never, never
have I seen the scale of mind twisting, and how an entire generation
is being brainwashed and indoctrinated, which is part of my latest film
that I just finished about a month and a half ago called The New Barbarians,
Training Children to Kill. This footage is absolutely shocking. Much
of it is taken off Arab T.V. where everyday Arab children are indoctrinated
through children's programming, through children's cartoons, through
music programs, to see how they are taught to hate the Jews and Christians
and Americans that support them. The footage is very, very shocking.
I am going to just take out three segments, it was very hard for me
to take out three little segments to show you this evening, to wet your
pallet, so to speak. You know, were all so confused about what is taking
place in the Middle East. Media is pro Arab. The slot is very confusing.
It is hard to work out what the Israelis are doing, what the Palestinians
are doing, and what is taking place. What I have tried to do in this
video is show the history of the Middle East crisis. Why was the nation
of Israel even formed? During the II World War the Jews were being horribly
persecuted, incinerated in ovens, millions of them were treated, of
course, incarcerated into concentration camps by Hitler, and no nation
would come to their help. The Jews turned from country to country, and
in the end the United Nations gave them a country called Palestine.
I go into the history of Palestine. I explain how much of the land went
back to the Arabs, how the land is getting smaller and smaller and smaller.
It is now the size of New Jersey, a sixteenth the size of America, a
small little piece of democracy in the middle of the Arab nation. The
issue isn't how much land the Jews should have. The issue by the Palestinians
and Yassar Arafat and the PLO is the annihilation of the Jews completely,
that the Jews should absolutely not be in the Middle East. I am going
to show you a few little clips, and my greatest concern is the brainwashing
of an entire generation. That is basically what this film is showing,
how Hitler trained his young children, The Brown Shirts. How Saddam
Hussein has 70,000 young children in his army trained from 12-17 years
old. One of them, I don't think I put in the clip, where you actually
have Saddam's soldiers, young little boys, a 14-year-old boy, tearing
apart a dead chicken with his hands and teeth. There is other footage,
but there was just so much to give to you and show you, I just took
out several sections. These children are being trained in such hatred
that I don't know how it is going to be reversed. It also shows the
training of these young kids is taking place also in America. So the
first little section will show, which is footage from Arab T.V., yeah,
I think we'll just press it to #1, it that's okay with you, then I'll
tell you when to stop.
Caryl:
I am narrating the film just in case you are wondering how the same
voice is in there.
(Showing film clips)
Caryl:
So that is one segment of the absolutely horrifying footage that is
training these very young children, at a very young age, to be, as the
Press calls it, "suicide bombs." This isn't an issue of suicide,
because if somebody wants to commit suicide they usually go off and
kill themselves and don't involve anyone else, but these young children
and being taught to be genocide bombs to kill a race or a people, or
homicide bombs to commit murder on innocent people. We saw the ultimate
of what happens when young children like this grow up, when we saw the
19 martyrs go into the Twin Towers and kill over 3,000 innocent American
victims in 9-11. My shock at having to go through this footage, I was
introduced about two years ago to an Algerian, actually a French Jew
came to me with some of the footage, and we started working together
and putting together. This is selected from hundreds of hours of footage
to put together something for you here. So, that little section is just
to show that 10,000 children a year go through these summer camps and
are trained to be homicide and genocide bombs. A lot of people ask me
"Well, what is the issue?" "What is the point of all
this?" Well the issue really is Jerusalem. The Arabs want Jerusalem
for themselves and do not want to share it with Christians and Jews.
It has been quite a new advent, it's only since the 1920's really that
Yassar Arafat's uncle brought a new awareness to Al-Aqsa Mosque and
training these young children to be martyrs for Al-Aqsa or the Rock.
So I would like to go into my second section to show you that the issue
is Jerusalem, and really to annihilate the Jews so that they can have
this position.
(Showing film)
Caryl:
So we see the fervor that is put into these children for jihad, for
dying as martyrs. The boys will have virgin girls, and I don't know
what quite happens to the girls. That's mind boggling. Anyway, I took
out another small segment which is showing that this is here. In my
investigations in making this film, I realized that this has been taking
place, as a very, very brave young journalist called Steve Emerson,
who way before the destruction of the Twin Towers, was warning on the
power of terrorism and the infrastructure of terrorism in this country.
You will see him standing in front of the Twin Towers, which is very
interesting. This little segment was made about ten years before terrorism
to show that this 7 million Muslims or more have been funding the Hamas,
Hisballa, and Al-Aqsa martyrs. So here is this one other little section
for you to see.
(showing film)
Caryl:
Well, those are a few excerpts from my latest film The New Barbarians,
Training Children to Kill, and I think it is a very powerful film, not
only does it have horrible graphics that come off Arab T.V., but it
does enlighten us to the crisis in the Middle East. It gives good history
and gives good information. I really would encourage you to get this.
I have reduced the price of all of my videos by $5. All videos are $15
and a little booklet about me is free.
I would just like to end, of course
I am open to your questions. The visuals that I got off television before
I came here this evening was, again, a horrible attack in Israel where
a Hamas leader was killed with his family, and the curses that came
from the other side is that there is going to be more killing, more
children, more families killed. The scriptures do tell us to pray for
the peace of Jerusalem and that this is going to be where the final
battle takes place. I wonder if just before we get to questions and
answers, we could just lift up the families and the problems. What we
had at 9-11, we had one day one year, they have this everyday, this
kind of terror in the Middle East, this terrorism. These young children
that go into pizza parlors, and there is footage in this video that
shows young children, 14 years old, learning how to strap themselves
with detonation and explosives, go into Pizzerias and restaurants where
families and children are eating, and blow themselves up. If you remember,
three days ago there was a young man masquerading, he was a young Palestinian
Arab, masquerading as an orthodox Jew , getting onto a bus and killing
people. This is what they live with everyday, and I do encourage us
to be able to take some political action. The reason that I make my
films is that while I'm sleeping at night, that passing around my message
all over the world day and night, and hopefully changing souls, changing
minds, and helping people to be exposed to truth, and not enveloped
in darkness any longer. Let's have a prayer for the families in the
Middle East. The Palestinians are victims, the Palestinians are being
used by Arab nations around them. The Palestinians could have had peace
in 1948 when Jerusalem, when Israel was given their country. The United
Nations also suggested giving Palestine to the Arabs, the Palestinians
that were there, but the neighboring Arab nations would not have it.
They said "No!" They didn't even want Israel to be a state.
They did not want the Jews to have their own country. The Palestinians
for the last 50 years have been the pawns of victimization by other
Arab nations, by their brothers in Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Syria,
Egypt that have set them up. So, let's remember them all and pray for
the peace of Jerusalem.
"Lord, I do…..
(Audience clapping)
Caryl:
Thank you. Are there any questions on Harry Potter or The New Barbarians?
Any of the videos?
Question:
I was just wondering if you could give any insight about the Israeli
policy of blowing Israel up with atomic bombs, rather than be overrun
or letting the Arabs, you know, push them out to the sea? Don't they
have a policy, military policy, called a Samson, or some other name
like that, that says we'll blow ourselves up before we will let the
Arabs overrun us? In other words, what I am saying, if that is true,
what do the Arabs stand to gain if, you know, you do explode an atomic
bomb there, what do they gain? You know, if they blow up Jerusalem they
both lose in the end.
Caryl:
No, you are right. This isn't a conflict of any sense. It is a battle
of hatred, and these children are incited to such hatred and violence.
You can see that basically the issue is that when the United Nations
gave Israel the land, that the Arabs did not agree with the United Nations
policy. When the ink was hardly even signed on the paperwork, six nations
came against the young state of Israel. Israel won, not only through
world opinion and the United Nations, in the war field as a young nation
they got their land. No, but the issue is that, in fact, Yassar Arafat
says that there will be no peace until there is the annihilation of
Israel. So, they do not agree that Israel should exist and that they
should live there in the Middle East. They want the Middle East as an
Arab Nation, and Israel is the only little democracy there. That is
the fight. What I say is give the Palestinians their autonomy, let the
Palestinians rule, let them be a Palestinian state, and give them their
autonomy. The Arab nations around wouldn't stand for that because, if
the Palestinians were given democracy and autonomy for local rule……
Question (same person):
(can't hear)
Caryl:
His question is: "Are they willing to see the men blown up, to
see the Israelis blown up, to see Jerusalem blown up?" It is a
war of hatred. It doesn't make sense. Of course there is no sense in
blowing Jerusalem up. That's the conflict.
Carlos (question):
Caryl, I don't condone terrorism, nor do I condone radical Islam, but
in my opinion, radical Islam has been financing funds through communist
states like China and Russia. Now if you go back historically to who
has financed and sustained China and Russia since their inception way
back in 1917, your gonna find that it is the banking houses of Wall
Street and London, the international banking communities. Okay, and
therein lies the root of terrorism. These bankers have also financed
Nazism, capitalism, communism, international Zionism, and what they
will do is force a clash between all these different ideologies and
the clash will result in conflict and chaos. And, out of this chaos
they will install a new world order, in essence, a one-world government.
(clapping)
The whole problem lies in Wall Street and London. Let's stop looking
at radicalism, let's go to the root of the problem because that's where
it's at.
Caryl:
That's right, it is called all sorts of different names. It comes in
at all angles, and we can't see, the smoke screen is so big that, you're
absolutely right. The question is, what goes on behind the smoke screen
and it is all about power and money and world control.
Carlos:
That's why, you know, it's slanted when you show slides like that, showing
radical Islam as a bunch of beasts, when they are being manipulated
and used.
Caryl:
That's my point, is that these young Palestinian children are being
manipulated and abused and used. That is the point. The Palestinians
are victims.
Question:
Okay, I have a couple of questions. First, do you know what God is in
Chinese, the language? My example is that I do not know, but in Arabic
God, I believe in God, Muslims believe in God, and Christians believe
in God. God in Arabic is Allah. I know that Christian Lebanese years
ago told me that when you go to the Middle East buy a necklace that
has Allah. It means God in Arabic. They believe in God, and Abraham
is the father of many nations, and it is Abraham's seed, including Palestinian
people. We need to understand the Bible and quit misinterpreting and
changing doctrination. Also, if you read the Bible, Galatians 3:28-29
it says, "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond
nor free, there is neither male nor female, for ye are all of one in
Christ Jesus, and if ye be Christ's then are ye Abraham's seed and heirs
according to the promise." According to the Jews, they have not
kept the promise, and before 1948, or maybe years before that, Jews,
the Sephardic Jews, Jews, Christians, Muslims they lived in peace in
Palestine, and I have traveled there many times. They do want peace,
they want freedom, it was Palestine from in the Bible, it was called
Palestine. It happened in the Balfour Agreement, way back when in 1917,
and in 1948 the state of Israel was born by terrorism. These were terrorist
groups called the Hagana, the Irgun, the Stern gangs. These were terrorist
activities that they did, they even committed terrorism on the British
Soldiers and drove the British out, because the British was going to
allow the state, for the Jews to have a state. Keep in mind, they wanted
first Argentina, they had other countries in mind. So, this is not a
Biblical, this is a seizure and steal of land. The people of Palestine
have suffered and I wish that you would tell the suffering. What do
you say about rocks being thrown? What kind of weapons do the Zionist
Jews have? What weapons did they have when they attacked the USS Liberty
in 1967? That was a terrorist act. We cannot speak up? What, do we have
a controlled media? I love Palestinian people, I love God's people.
I'll tell you, we have nothing in common with the Jewish religion, and
I have a pamphlet that says what the Jews believe and what Christians
believe. Jews do not believe in forgiveness, I mean, I could go on about
the differences. We have more in common with the Muslim faith than we
do with the Jewish. There is no such thing as Judeochristianity. It
is Jesus Christ, and Christ said, "Ye are not of my people, ye
are of the devil." Read your Bible. Thank you.
Caryl:
Would you like to give your question?
Question:
I thought you were going to respond to her question.
Caryl:
I don't think that was a question.
Question:
Caryl, is there anything that is going to be done about, from what I
depicted from your video there, in showing, what really shocked me,
was the training camps here on U.S. soil? They are going to plan some
more terrorist acts here in this county, which I pray to God won't happen.
Are they being surveilled by the FBI and the CIA with these terrorist
training camps around the country? It's just like, let's paint a scenario,
going back 60 years ago, if the Germans or the Japanese would have training
camps right here in the United States, let's say back in the early 40's
like during World War II, and they were planning to take over America.
What I am saying, what my point is, is there anything being done to
stop this madness of these extreme Muslims, potential terrorists in
these children, from doing their deadly and evil acts here to American
citizens here on American soil?
Caryl:
That is a very good question. Just in all fairness, those were just
excerpts that were taken out of context in the film. I mean, I was just
pulling out some clips. But, in that last section that did show what
is taking place in America, if you notice, that was footage from 1989
and 1996. So, there has been an awareness for the last 12 years of the
growing power of terrorism within America, and it is being watched.
I think, I commend the powers that are doing as much as then can. You
know, the problem is how can you tell a terrorist? When you see these
terrorists dressing as pregnant women or orthodox Jews with robes or
whatever, it's hard to, you know, say what a terrorist looks like. So,
now there is a lot being done, there is. What I was trying to do in
the film was to just bring in an awareness through Middle Eastern, through
Arab television, as to what is the indoctrination that is going on there,
and to let us see the media from another point of view. We just get
American media here, we don't see how serious the situation is.
Question (same person):
Yes, and one more statement. Since 9-11 there have been, I don't know
why they have done it, they allowed more young Muslim men into this
country from the Arabic Middle Eastern countries. They are up to something,
I know that.
Caryl:
Well, you see that, but also you see in the Iraqi war where there are
converts to Islam being in the prisons, for instance, it is a tremendous
recruiting ground for black Muslims in the prisons. You saw that young
American
soldier blow up his fellow soldiers in the Iraqi war within his own
ranks and hailed as a martyr. You know, commended for his actions, which
was very shocking. The mentality is incredible that these young children
are being trained to be human bombs. That was the message that I was
trying to put across, that we should have. What about the United Nations
going off about the rights of children? What about the incredible cruelty
to these young children in Palestine and Arab nations? We should be
up in arms about that.
Question (same person):
We should be up in arms about these training camps on American soil.
I think the FBI, CIA, the Army, whoever, should put a stop to this madness
here, and put these people out of here before they do harm over here
like they are doing over there in the Middle East, especially in Israel.
(clapping)
Caryl:
Thank you.
Question:
I am a Jewish convert to Christianity. My background is Jewish and I
accepted Jesus Christ as my Savior July 22, 1966. I appreciate a lot
of what you were telling tonight about paganism and Harry Potter and
occultism, and all of that. It is very real. What I would ask you is
how can you give the presentation on one side of the Islamic terrorism
and ignore Zionist terrorism? Because, it's there. (clapping) It is
good that you are exposing one side of it, and a lot of people only
expose the other side of it. But, an overview of the whole situation
is that both sides are being manipulated.
Caryl:
The issue I was trying to raise here is that young children from the
age of 2or 3 years old are being trained in camps as genocide bombers.
Whatever is the Zionist terrorism, I don't think young children are
being trained to incite hatred to violence, to go into public places
to become genocide, homicide bombers.
Voice from the audience:
We're just bulldozing their homes down with tanks and all that.
Caryl:
You know, that is another issue, and this particular one was just showing
the indoctrination of children, the brainwashing of children, which
is my field and my area. That this is absolutely outrageous. It's outrageous
that young children are being trained what adults do, as adult people
who go into armies and decide to war on one side of an issue and another
on what is being done by elder, older people through their free choice
is something else. These are young children that are being indoctrinated
and brainwashed at a young age to eat human flesh, as this young boy
was saying that he will eat his conquerors flesh, that they have got
guns to shoot the Jews, to butcher the Jews. That is the outrageous
behavior that I am trying to bring out, that is part of an indoctrination
program through children's programming, children's cartoons. You will
see it in the film that I have left in the entire animation in children's
programming just to show what they are being taught to do.
Question (same person):
Well, it is good that you are exposing that. I just want to close real
quick by saying that as a born again Christian, there is nothing in
common with the gospel of Jesus Christ and Judaism, Islam, or any religion.
Caryl:
I agree.
Question: (same person):
No connection whatsoever. It is unique.
Caryl:
I agree, because one is a God of mercy and love and forgiveness, and
the other is hatred, inciting violence and teaching young children,
this is a learned behavior, children do not learn how to hate and become
violent. In fact, children want to be loved by adults and want to do
good. This is an issue of unbelievably abusive brainwashing and indoctrination.
Question (same person):
And I see a future restoring Israel, but the modern state of Israel
is counterfeit.
Caryl:
Thank you.
(clapping)
Question:
Caryl, thank you for giving us a important piece of a very big puzzle.
My question concerns Harry Potter. When I was growing up you saw Wizard
of Oz, the good and the bad witch. If you wanted to read comics there
was Casper the Friendly Ghost, you get the idea, and Halloween, I'm
really dating myself now, kids actually were left on their own to go
up and down the neighborhoods, and some were dressed in witches costumes.
I guess, what I'm asking is, does Harry Potter differ in some important
way from these childhood experiences of my own that I've mentioned?
Or, is there a continuity there that I was unaware of?
Caryl:
Well, I think the continuity, what I was trying to bring out through
the video, Harry Potter, Witchcraft Repackaged, was that the publishers
were also the curriculum providers for 80 years, and that this was coming
into the schools, being read aloud in the schools. The difference in
the Wizard of Oz or Disney is that we knew that there was a bad witch,
the witch was evil, or with the witch the nosed twitched and humorously
the vacuum went on and, you know, the house was dusted or whatever.
But, in this case, this is a boarding school of witchcraft and wizardry,
Hogwarts Occult School of Witchcraft and Wizardry, famous for 1,000
years in Europe, supposedly. The teachers there, probably over a dozen,
fifteen, twenty lessons that Harry goes from classroom to classroom,
and as the various teachers of the occult are teaching on herb mixing,
potion mixing, magic mixing, how to cast spells, how to put accents
on the right emphasis on ritual magic, nature worship, goddess worship,
all the various things that are happening in each year's adventures.
The reader is vicariously being taught what the witches in the Hogwarts
School of Witchcraft and Wizardry are being taught by their occult adults.
So the young reader is being indoctrinated into pagan philosophy and
learning how to do the things that Harry and his cohorts are doing.
It is being put across in a fascinating and appealing way. We understand
that from the newspaper article I read this morning where witches are
showing that tremendous interest world-wide is a new interest among
children. So what children are learning through Harry Potter is that
the children can be involved in witchcraft. That it is a children's
religion and can be practiced by children. Where as, technically, witches
will tell you that they do not want people joining their coven under
18 years old, because there are sexual rituals and ceremonies that are
many times often done, as they call it, in sky cloud or naked, or in
moon ceremonies, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. So I think the difference,
well definitely the difference is that a religion is being taught in
a fiction setting. It is called children's literature and read aloud
in the classroom, where the Bible is being thrown out and pagan morals
are being taught. Harry lies, Harry cheats, Harry steals, and Harry
is rewarded for all these things. His teachers commend him when he does
immoral, unethical behavior, which most of us as parents wouldn't like
our children to do, and certainly wouldn't like the teachers to commend
them in doing so. Those are some of the issues.
Question:
I just want to make a few comments. I'll start off with the Harry Potter
thing. I personally don't believe in any of this stuff. I think it's
all just fantasy BS to me. But, I think the real issue here, as far
as the schools teaching that in the schools, I think we need to abolish
the government school system. (clapping) People should be able to go
to whatever school they want to. If you want to send your kids to religious
school or a school that teaches Harry Potter. I grew up in the 70's
and 80's, I played video games and read comic books and watched movies
and stuff like that, and I think I turned out okay, I'm not a serial
killer or anything.
Anyway, getting back to the issue of
the whole Israel thing and the terrorism. I remember this gentleman
over here brought up how there were training camps in the United States
of America. You know after the first Gulf War, under Bush, and the policy
continued under Clinton, that Iraqi soldiers were brought into the United
States of America by our government. This is all documented. They were
working with the CIA and they were involved in blowing up the building
in Oklahoma City. So getting back to what this gentleman here said,
I think that all this stuff is being concocted to bring about the new
world order police state.
Caryl:
I agree.
Question (same person):
Another thing here, I think that we as Americans need to get back to
the Constitution. We need to cut off all this foreign aid, get out of
the United Nations, and start worrying about what's going on right here
in the United States of America. This is the holy land. We're standing
in the holy land right now. Whatever goes on over there, if they want
to kill each other that's their business. I mean, I would like to see
them come to a peaceful settlement and everything, but, you know, this
is America and we need to start worrying about ourselves and stop worrying
about what is going on on the other side of the planet. (clapping)
Caryl:
Thank you.
Question:
I just had a question about the Harry Potter thing. Is it true that
Mrs. Rowling is now a billionaire? I'm just wondering what is her background?
What is she doing with her money? What type of alliances or social circle
does she have? What type of mindset does she have, as far as, convictions
and things like that? Have you done any research on her?
Caryl:
That is a very good question. She is actually richer than the Queen
of England. She is, I believe, now, I have forgotten what number, anyway
she is very, very, very rich. Interestingly enough, she is the most
protected celebrity and public figure. Not a lot of her private information
is told about her. I have done research and the most interesting thing
to see is what her money is spent on, and it's the social activities
that she puts her money into that concern me the most. She supports
third world countries, in the sense of abortion and sterilization, the
homosexual agenda, the socialist agenda in many third world countries.
I think that tells a lot about her political activism. Also, she named
her daughter after Jessica Mitford, who she said gave her the greatest,
who was her political mentor. If you just look at Jessica Mitford's
life, you will see that she was an English conservative, Lord and Lady
Mitford's family and the children married into communist families that
came over here to America and formed the Communist Party here in America.
So to name her daughter after Jessica Mitford, I think, says a lot about
her political positioning.
Question (same person)
This is just a side thing. I can't remember the exact name, but about
a year ago on a talk show I saw a woman who claimed that she had the
original idea and had written a book with a very similar name of Harry
Potter. I can't remember that exact name, and she had a lawsuit claming
that the original story was plagiarized and stolen, and she was trying
to go after copyright. Do you know anything about that?
Caryl:
Yes I do. I vaguely remember that. I think it was over the word Mugles
and other things that she felt that J.K. Rowling had taken some of her
words. Well, J.K. Rowling has probably plagiarized or borrowed from
a lot of mythology, classical Greek mythology, Folklore, Celtic beliefs
and all sorts of things. Words like the Mugles, etcetera are very English
words. I mean to be called a Mugle is a fool. Of course Mugles are those
who do not believe in witchcraft, in the Harry Potter series. So to
be a Mugle, is to be a fool or somebody that….. I do remember
that particular case. I don't think she won anything, because I think
they were just words that were taken from all sorts of potpourri selections
of things.
Question:
Okay, one of my questions has already been asked, but I don't remember
if you said anything. Why are they letting them into the United States
and why are they letting them have camps? Are the FBI or anybody looking
into it, do you know?
Caryl:
I do believe that terrorism has had such a focus with officials in the
country, and of course they have been very aware. They haven't always
taken seriously. I believe that apparently two or three days before
9-11 happened there was a warning that it was going to happen. I believe
the Jewish intelligence had told them six weeks or two months before
that there was going to be something happening. I think a lot of things
are taken seriously and watched.
Question (same person):
Yes, I do know one of the fellows that did bring that forth about a
year before that, did talk about that. He is a man that is in the movie,
We are Soldiers Once and Young, that is the name of the book that it
was taken from. Rick Rescorla is the man's name. He was killed in the
building, the Twin Towers when they went down. He did do a video, it
was shown on national television about them flying a plane into the
towers. He is the one that got the people out in 1992. He is the same
man. But, when he went back in 9-11 he was killed in the collapse of
the towers, but that's a sidetrack anyway. I have had Muslims tell me
we have the same God, and if you look, then why don't we have the same
Bible? Why doesn't it translate to the same? It does not, so we do not
have the same God. So that is another issue you might want to address.
This is another one, the Muslims are training their children to use
guns, what are we doing? We're taking our guns away. We are teaching
our children to be afraid of guns. (clapping)
We are disarming, and this is wrong, and I can hear by the applause
that everyone agrees. The other thing that we must look out for, someone
else already addressed this, I thank him for doing that, is that blacks
and Hispanics, Mexicans, are being recruited in the prisons and jails
because they are disgruntled and they go after them to say join us,
we'll be strong, we'll go after the oppressors, the whites, the Christians,
the Jews. So, these are the ones to be careful of. Let your Hispanic
friends and your black friends know that they are being had, they are
being lied to.
Caryl:
Thank you. Thank you very much. I would also just like to follow up
on that. When people say that the Muslims and Christians have the same
God, the Muslims do believe in a god they call Allah, but to say that
Muslims and Christians worship the same God under different names is
quite wrong. Christians worship the Holy Trinity, the Creator of the
Universe, the One True God, a God of love without beginning and end.
Allah actually is the God of hatred and a god without a son in the Bible.
I've got over 100 verses in the Koran that shows, and actually anybody
can go into Amazon.com and read the Koran for themselves to see that
it is a terrorist training manual, and certainly not, and I am not saying
that there aren't wonderful Muslims. I am not saying that, but I am
saying that the Koran is a book on terrorism.
Question:
Yeah, they said that like Rowling was on welfare in England while she
was writing, is that true?
Caryl:
Well, that's of course the whole thing of lifting her up as the single
mom, the welfare mom, and that was all part of the media hype of showing
how a single woman can come up and actually got to her feminist roots
quite strongly, and lifted up the single woman. Now she is married so
they have kept that one very quiet.
Question (same person):
I also wanted to mention, we even have a mosque in Burbank now, believe
it or not, on Burbank Boulevard. You wouldn't even know by the building,
it's a little innocuous building, it looks like an office or a store,
nothing written on it. But, at night when they are having their meetings
they are being protected by the Burbank Police Department. This was
going on well, well, ten years ago, it's been going on that long, so
it's well before 9-11. It's down there between Buena Vista and Chili
Johns. The police have been guarding these people for like a decade
or more, before anything was happening. I thought it was kind of unusual
that they are being protected, but for what reason until now all this
turmoil.
Caryl:
Interesting.
Question:
I just want to give out a website, some of you people here might know
about it. There is a really good website called infowars.com. It has
a large section about terrorism and 9-11. It has tons of documented
information, it's irrefutable. Everybody here, if you haven't been to
the website, you ought to go check it out, infowars.com. That's all.
Caryl:
I-n-f-o wars.com
Question:
I wanted to comment on Scientology, if you could talk about that. Also,
you didn't mention about the Talmid, you were talking about the Bible,
the Koran, all the religions derive from the Old Testament. All the
religions derive from the Old Testament, most of them. You should talk
about the Talmid, how they call people galain, you talk about infidels,
what about galains, the Jews preached that.
Question:
Yes, I have an economical way to help the problem over there, it might
save us over 10 billion a year, to quit giving this foreign aid to Israel
and every other country too.
Caryl:
Last one.
Question:
Yes, are you tracking Rowlings and her activities or the phenomenon
of the books, or is there any other researcher or website that you could
give us where we could kind of get more information on what Rowlings
is doing since she has so much money?
Caryl:
Well, the reason that I knew what she had done with her money, I find
it very interesting, about three years ago when book #1 came out and
consecutively for the next three years books #2, #3, and #4 came out,
then there was a gap of two years until this book that is coming out
now on June 21st. Meanwhile, Warner Bros made a film on book #1, which
they said was an accurate portrayal of witchcraft, that was the film.
Then, of course, the second year was the Warner Bros film based on book
#2. So there has been an indoctrination each year, year by year, that
hundreds of thousands of children have been systematically targeted.
In Amazon.com there are over 18,050, the last time I counted, books
on witchcraft targeted at young children. So if they have read Harry
Potter, then the New Age section, which is right next to the Harry Potter
displays, encourage children to go into witchcraft for children. So,
the reason I was able to track down J.K. Rowling's money was because
that year, the year that she didn't come out with the book, I noticed
that she was giving two books free, that she wasn't apparently collecting
any money on two little small booklets. I don't know if they were released
in this country, but they were released in Europe. That's when I started
following where was the money going to that was coming in for the sales
of those books. I noticed that they went into two charities that she
had set up. Then I looked into what the charities were funding and that's
when I realized that her enormous, enormous amounts of money were going
into population control, sterilization, abortion, and other issues in
third world countries. I think you can see that a lot of what she is
doing, not probably where her money is being spent, but Scholastic Inc.,
the site, her publishers give a lot of her sort of popcorn image, the
fluffy image that they want the public to see. You can delve, you can
find out. If I can do it anybody can.
Question (same person):
Are you going to continue to track her on your website?
Caryl:
I will try. I have a lot of stuff that I am trying to catch up with,
but certainly I will certainly try to expose as much as I can on my
website.
Question (same person):
And what is your website?
Caryl:
It's Caryltv.com. C-a-r-y-l tv.com. I have got it on the table at the
back there. Caryltv.com. And I've got this, which is a freebie booklet
for you, my card is in the front page and it has got my e-mail address
and web page and everything in it. Please keep in touch.
Question (same person):
Have you in your research, have you run across any other people like
yourself or groups that are interested in this woman's activities and
her background? An interest in analyzing the phenomenon of the books?
Caryl:
The Harry Potter issue has created a tremendous controversy. There are
a few of us that are doing research. There is an author called Richard
Abanes who has written a book on Harry Potter, but that is more less
the philosophical view, you know, why we shouldn't be involved in witchcraft.
There is a young man there that said that he didn't believe in all that
stuff. Witchcraft, obviously, God thought seriously enough about it
in the Bible to tell us not to be involved in it and not to tamper with
it and be persuaded and fascinated with it, so obviously God thinks
it is serious enough to be warned about.
Question (same person):
At the other end, the witch groups themselves, have they had anything
to say about her or about looking at her, approaching her as the benefactor
for their activities?
Caryl:
They commend her, they thank her very much for getting hundreds and
thousands of children around the world interested in witchcraft. They
see her as being very insightful about the occult. On radio stations
that I have listened to that she is involved in, callers will call and
say you are obviously a very astute occultist because you know a lot.
And, she does. She is very, very knowledgeable. She has brought witchcraft
into a very credible place and a religion for young children. That is,
I think, the most dangerous. Where years ago one had to go into dark
alleys and secret places to learn anything about occultism or the dark
arts, nowadays you can get it at Barnes and Noble in little children's
witch kits, training young children.
Question (same person):
Do you plan on doing any videos in the future on the activities of these
witch groups now that she has created this phenomenon?
Caryl:
You can go into the web page and you will see the hundreds and hundreds
and hundreds of pagan sites. Go into witch, just type in witches, you
will see, or pagans. In one of the school curriculums that I mentioned
in the Harry Potter video, in one of the books that was a school recommended
book, they gave the actual addresses of pagan sites to go into. When
I went into the pagan sites the witches thanked me for my interest and
wrote me back e-mails. Now if young children are doing this and not
being able to discern, that's the worry. That is the worry, because
they are being given answers to very, very good questions by pagans
and people from an alternative…….
Question:
I just wanted to respond to the thing…..
Caryl:
About you being handsome?
Question (same person):
…..about the Harry Potter stuff not being true. You know, it's
like you can take 1,000 people, kids, and have them watch Superman,
and there are going to be a few kids that are going to be dumb enough
to put a cape on and jump off the roof, you know. So, I mean different
things effect people in different ways. Most people can see something
and realize that it is all fiction, there are always going to be people
who are dumb enough or who were raised wrong by their parents that are
going to take it seriously. I think the bottom line is that we need
to get rid of the government schools and people teach their children
their values, and that's the bottom line.
Caryl:
Thank you. Thank you all very, very much for your questions.
Thank you.
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